It seems that is the view of Nigel Farage, UKIP's out going Leader. In an astonishing outburst of the BBC's Daily Politics Show on Wednesday this week he effectively dismissed all the other candidates despite three of them being MEP's and the fourth being a highly regarded and extremely knowledgeable South West Committee Chairman and UKIP Returning Officer.
This author for one was quite frankly shocked at the comments which would have been problematic in a UKIP meeting, but to say such a thing on National Television, has re-ignited the debate as to whether UKIP is indeed a one man party.
UKIP Constitutional experts have said Nigel has blatantly breached party rules, but it seems no one in a senior position is prepared to speak out against him.
The other candidates would rightly feel let down, and perhaps very deflated as being branded effectively useless by the man they would, if elected have to work with. Three will still have to work with him in the European Union.
In the interests of the party it is my view that Nigel should apologise not only to the candidates but to the membership. The comments on the UKIP members forum, is very much reflected by those in the general membership I have spoken to. This was an appalling gaff, that the party can do without.
Friday, 13 November 2009
The Pub Consultancy Service is an author at Bloggers4UKIP.
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It seems to me that of all the candidates for the leadership Lord Pearson seems to be the best communicator.
Forgive my intrusion into your blog, I came across it doing a search of UKIP, having listened to some UKIP members and to Lord Pearson himself I find his views and outlook quite refreshing. He appears to have his ear to the ground and is very knowledgeable of what is happening around him.
I will admit I took no interest in UKIP until Mr Farage announced he was stepping down. I am awaiting the result of a branch vote to see if I can attend a local meeting of your party, your improved policies makes it quite interesting.
Councillor John Oddy
Thank you for your comments John Oddy. We welcome comments and opinons from all parties. The three main parties all promised a referendum on the new EU Treaty. One by one all three have gone back on that promise. Trust in the big three parties has been shaken. Only UKIP is continuing to promise a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty.
I think Mr Halden ought to do a little research before welcoming people to UKIP.
I think Mr Halden ought to do a little research before welcoming people to UKIP.
Bob,
I do not think Mr Halden was welcoming me to UKIP; he welcomed my opinion and comment. I understand your scepticism due to my former political affiliations, of which I have made secret and have been totally open and honest about, what I am doing is showing an interest in UKIP.
I believe we have been lied to and misled by the mainstream parties, all of whom read from the same song sheet, this Country has been dragged into the EU, with its “Superstate” rhetoric and un-wanted, oppressive policies.
When UKIP first started it was a one policy party and, although I agreed with it in principle, it did not go far enough to combat the main parties. As UKIP as matured your policies have also, to the point where they are very similar to mine, during that change I believe that UKIP have now aligned themselves with the views of a very large percentage of the UK population, it would be extremely naive of me to not want further investigation into a party that I believe has the capability of challenging our present and or prospective Governments.
John Oddy why don't you join UKIP. Ex BNP members are allowed too join UKIP. As long as they no longer have any connection with the BNP
Anon 13.01,
I was invited to, and did, attend a local UKIP meeting but the Political Advisor of the branch informed them that ex-BNP members were not allowed to attend under a directive from your NEC so I was asked to leave; they sought advice and have decided to have a branch vote to see if I can attend their December meeting.
I work, quite closely, with two UKIP Councillors and they are extremely hard workers within the community, it was they who gave me the pointers towards UKIP, as an Independent I am free to engage local problems as I see fit, and quite often do, this often brings me into conflict with our County Council which is, as I see it, part of my duties as a Councillor. Being outspoken is all very good when you are Independent but I worry that if I join UKIP they would wish me to refrain from taking the Council to task.
do you know the Political Advisors name ? there is no such rule.
which coucnil does these two UKIP Councillors sit on ? the same as yours ?
John,
There is no rule banning former BNP members from joining UKIP. Due dilligence would be carried out, obviously, but past membership of the BNP is not a barrier to UKIP membership as long as you no longer have associations with the BNP. Membership of the BNP is designated as incompatible with membership of UKIP but former membership isn't.
Anon 15.09,
Are you the same person who made the request on Voices of Colwyn Bay? If you are then the same answer applies here, I would not give out his details publically, I do not feel that would be right.
In answer to the second part of your question; yes, they are both members of Colwyn Bay Town Council.
Wonkotsane????, (Why?)
I have since sent copies of my very public resignation and of the BNP’s acceptance of that resignation to the Welsh Chairman of UKIP who was at the meeting that I had to leave, he, obviously, had to take the advice of his Political Advisor/Officer.
I think the PO took exception to my position within the BNP he claimed that I would have associated with the hierarchy of the Party, what he failed to realise is that my resignation was partly because of my very public criticism of that hierarchy. He further claimed I write a racist blog, which I deny, I am, however, very critical and openly admit to it, against Islam, which I find to be an archaic, oppressive and dangerous religion. The blog in question is easily accessible and deals primary with local issues although it does wander into political questioning in places, it even tells the readers of my past politics in my profile. As I said I have got nothing to hide.
Councillor John Oddy
I believe that the whole country should rise up together, and fight fascism in Britain today.
The real facists in Britain today are the Lib/Lab/Con. They are trying to destroy all democracy in Britian.
The Lib/Lab/Con are trying to destroy our parliament at Westminster, and replace it with an EU federal government based in Brussels.
Bit by bit 70% of the law making powers of Britain have been handed over to the unelected European Union Commissioners in Brussels.
The final nail in the coffin of democracy in Britain, was the Lisbon Treaty.
All political parties promised a referendum on the New EU Treaty, and one by one they have all gone back on that promise.
Now even the Conservative Party has gone back on its promise to hold a referendum on the new EU Treaty.
This country can never again trust a single word that David Cameron says.
Only UKIP has kept faith with the voters, and continues to offer the promised referendum on the Lisbon Treaty.
We always suspected, but now we all know, the Conservative Party is a pro-EU party.
David Cameron has at last shown his true colours.
His failure to keep his promise to hold a referendum on the new EU Treaty shows that his word can nolonger be trusted.
I have been asked to make a correction; he is not the branch Political advisor, he is John Bufton's Political Advisor. I apologise for my mistake and any confusion.
The request to attend a meeting was refused....
http://voicesofcolwynbay.blogspot.com/2009/11/at-last-decisionno.html
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