Cameron says no EU referendum

Cast Iron Dave's political private secretary has told a Conservative member from Oxford who was threatening to resign over his broken Cast Iron Guarantee™ to hold a referendum on the EU Constitution/Lisbon Treaty that there will not be a referendum on membership of the EU.

The letter says that we should celebrate the EU's "useful work" in equipping us for global competitiveness, global warming and global poverty.  What it doesn't say is that before we joined the EU, we were part of the largest trading block the world has ever seen - the Commonwealth - and that EU economic policy has produced the vanity project that is the mortally wounded €uro.  It also doesn't say that through EU regulations and the stupidity of the British government, what's left of our industry is being legislated out of existence by environmental laws based the global warming climate change global climate disruption myths perpetuated by corrupt "scientists" who are motivated by greed making millions from the scam.  It also fails to mention that thanks to the Common Agricultural Policy - which costs one third of all the money the EU extorts from the taxpayer - is the biggest cause of poverty in Africa.

The letter goes on to say that we don't need a referendum on membership of the EU because we already had one in 1975 and that was a resounding "yes" and because most people, apparently, don't want to say yes or no.

The referendum in 1975 - which nobody currently under the age of 53 was able to vote in - was on the UK joining the Common Market (or so the proles were told), not a political union with an EU government that can make laws that supercede our own.  Most people voted yes because they were conned by Ted Heath, the biggest traitor since Lord Haw Haw.  In a referendum today most people would vote to leave the EU, there is no doubt about that.  But if there is doubt in the minds of Cast Iron Dave and the europhiles he has surrounded himself with in the Conservative & _٨^European Unionist Party then all they have to do is ask the electorate what they want in a referendum!

If Cameron says there is no way we will be having a referendum on EU membership, why bother setting up the ePetitions website?  The outcome of the debate on EU membership that will come from the EU referendum petition getting 100,000 signatures is obviously going to be irrelevant.

Meaningless words and empty promises from a proven liar

There must have been a huge sigh of relief at the Express offices last night when Downing Street churned out some propaganda that they could spin into a Cast Iron Guarantee™ from Cast Iron Dave on the EU.

Cameron has promised to negotiate a new relationship between the UK and the EU and claw back power from the EU.  He says that with the collapse of the euro, the eurozone members will have to get even closer politically and that can be used to negotiate a looser relationship.

Setting aside the fact that a promise from Camoron is utterly worthless, the key word is "negotiate".  Giving power away to the EU can be done unilaterally, taking it back requires the unanimous agreement of every member state and that's not going to happen.  To forcibly take it back would require a government with some backbone rather than this bunch of europhile quislings in Westminster.

There will be opportunities for Britain to maximise what we want in terms of our engagement with Europe.

Who is this "we" Dave?  Most of us want to leave the EU, we want nothing more than free trade which is what the country voted for all those years ago.  Somehow I don't think that's going to be on the agenda is it?

I got us out of the bailout mechanism, which has been used repeatedly and from 2013 cannot be used again, so I think I exacted a good and fair price for Britain.

2013?  2013!  How many more bailouts will there have been by 2013?  Greece has had 2 bailouts in two years, Portugal is on its way to a second bailout and Ireland is only treading water thanks to an extra bailout direct from the UK.  And we'll still be paying into the bailouts via the IMF.  We shouldn't have paid a penny into propping up a foreign currency, especially one that has been doomed since its inception.

Meaningless words and empty promises from a proven liar days after reaffirming the British government's commitment to ever closer political union.

Localism Bill will force local authorities to pay EU fines

A clause in the Localism Bill will mean EU fines for not recycling enough or for air quality will be passed on to local authorities to pay.

In one way this is positive because at the moment the devolved governments of Scotland, Wales and NI are responsible for the legislation that underpins the EU's targets but they aren't responsible for paying the fines if they miss them.  But in every other way this is just plain wrong.

Local authorities in England are experiencing big cuts in their block grants - probably the only genuine cuts in the ConDem budget - and at the same time are being expected to do more with that money.  The London Assembly could be expected to pay £300m in EU fines for poor air quality if Cast Iron Dave and Eric Pickles don't get permission from their masters in the EU to delay air quality targets.  Local authorities could be hit with millions of pounds of fines for not meeting EU landfill targets and the money will come out of budgets for libraries, schools, social services, etc.

Hague must now give us a referendum on Eurozone Lisbon Treaty changes.

We may not be in the Eurozone but it clearly governs our actions.

Officially the bailouts that have been happening within the EU/Eurozone are illegal under the relevant treaties. But as there seems to be no court to enforce these treaties, this fact has been ignored.

However, to now regularise these bailouts, the treaties/laws are to be amended to retrospectively legalise the bailouts.

Prior to the last election and subsequently, after the establishment of the coalition government, David Cameron and his Conservatives have promised the people of the UK that there will be referenda on any future changes to our relationship with the EU that may impact UK sovereignty.

Putting these two issues together, a significant treaty change and the promise of referenda one might have expected a referendum on the proposed changes to the Lisbon Treaty. However, if this is what you expected then you would be disappointed as William Hague has said that there will be no referendum on this matter.

The Conservative governments argument against holding the promised referendum is that the change only affects Eurozone countries, of which the UK is not one, so the change makes no difference to the UK.

However following the initial £7 billion bailout of the Euro/EU/Ireland  it is clear that Eurozone issues are essential to the UK's national interest. Especially as conservative/coalition chancellor George Osborne has refused to rule out possible future bailouts of other Eurozone countries - Portugal, Greece and Italy.

There can now be no argument against having UK referenda on any treaty changes within the EU - even if only Eurozone countries are being targeted. While we are in the EU, then regarding the Euro and Eurozone  'we are all in this together'.

We may not be in the Eurozone but it clearly governs our actions - so where is our referendum?

Cameron caves in again - voting rights for prisoners

David Camoron, the vichy Prime Minister, has caved in to the EU for the second time in less than a week, saying that we have no choice but to give prisoners the right to vote.

The EU Court of Human Rights ruled some time ago that it was a breach of EU law to deny prisoners the right to vote and demanded that the 140 year old ban on prisoners voting is repealed.

This is the ideal opportunity for Camoron to rush through his Sovereignty Bill which "Reaffirm[s] the sovereignty of the United Kingdom Parliament" and means that there is no need to be "exasperated" and "furious" at there being no choice but to comply with the ruling of a foreign court.  But rather than rush the Sovereignty Bill through Parliament, reaffirm the sovereignty of the UK Parliament and tell the EU that our own laws are more important than theirs, he has instead reaffirmed the supremacy of the European Empire.

Last week Camoron caved in on the EU budget before he even started negotiations on reducing or freezing it as he'd promised.  This week he's caved in on prisoners voting rights and in the last couple of months he's caved in on an EU financial regulator, caved in on the EU vetting our budget before it's presented to Parliament, caved in on the EU fining national governments that borrow more money than the EU says they can, caved in on the EU diplomatic corps, caved in on the Franco-German demands for a new treaty to give the EU more powers over member states' economies and caved in on the EU immigration deal with India.  Did I miss any?

All of these could be stopped if the Sovereignty Bill was law but there is simply no appetite in the ConDem ruling elite to stem the loss of sovereignty to the EU and that's why the Sovereignty Bill will only become law once a permanent transfer of sovereignty has already taken place, if at all.

David Cameron: Compulsive Liar & Traitorous Europhile

David Camoron is going to the European Empire today to fight for a limit on the increase in the EU budget.  A few days ago he wanted a freeze in the budget and a few days before that he wanted a reduction in the budget.  By the end of the day he'll have increased our contribution and agreed to abolish the rebate.

It is impossible for the UK government to reduce the EU budget.  Even if Camoron somehow managed to get a majority of the heads of member states to agree to limit the obscene 6.2% increase in the EU budget, the EU Parliament can overrule them and as we all know, 90% of the EU Parliament is made up of europhile traitors whose only objective in life is lining their own pockets and creating a European Empire.

Cast Iron Dave gave a cast iron promise that we would have a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty/EU constitution.  He lied.

He said his government wouldn't transfer any more powers to the EU and then transferred more criminal justice powers to the EU, agreed to illegal EU scrutiny of the UK budget before it goes to Parliament and agreed to the creation of an EU financial services regulator.  He lied.

He said he would fight for a reduction in the EU budget.  He lied.

He said he would fight for a freeze in the EU budget.  He lied.

He says he's going to fight for a limit on the EU budget increase.  He's lying!

France and Germany want to change the Lisbon Treaty/EU constitution to give the EU more control over eurozone economies.  Camoron said any new treaty or treaty change would be subject to a referendum.  Now he says we don't need a referendum on this change to the Lisbon Treaty because we're not in the euro.  Another lie.


David Camoron is a compulsive liar and a treasonous europhile.  He has surrounded himself with europhile Tories and Lib Dems in his ConDem coalition cabinet.  During the election campaign we said "Vote Conservative, get Brussels".  The electorate voted Conservative and they're getting Brussels.

EU insists on vetting UK budget before parliament

The EU President, Herman van Humpy-Pumpy, was in Downing Street yesterday to tell David Camoron what he is and isn't allowed to do with the budget.


Make yourself at home President van Rompuy, sir.Finance Ministers from other EU provinces have, according to the BBC, "moved closer to agreeing to allow other governments to study their annual budgets before they are seen by national parliaments". The UK government has apparently said no but the EUrocrats are saying that a compromise has been found which will be interesting to see because it is illegal to disclose the budget to the European Empire before it is presented to parliament.

Whether Camoron and Georgy Porgy cave in to the European Empire and break English law to satisfy the demands of their EU masters will be a good indication as to whether we can expect the ConDem government to honour their promise not to give any more power to the European Empire.  They have already broken their promise to repatriate powers from the European Empire so it doesn't look too promising, does it?

The negation of the self

David Cameron wants you to negate yourself, according to Richard Reeves, director of the neo-Marxist think tank Demos. That Britain’s next ‘conservative’ Prime Minister has been fraternising with this far-left Fabianist fifth-column, has been common knowledge amongst those in the know for some time. But that the Telegraph would echo such strong collectivist propaganda as this, and promote it as Editor’s Choice, is perhaps a little shocking.

“At the heart of Cameron’s political philosophy are the conjoined ideas of
social responsibility and commitment. But the “big society” which he
optimistically hopes can replace the “big state” is one which has to be composed
of big people – people who are willing both to discipline themselves and to
sacrifice some of their own interests for those of others. In other words,
people of character.”

So after “decades of neglect” of the state’s cultivation of the personality of the people (I beg to differ), Reeves and Cameron have decided to lay out the attributes which are most desirable to their “new agenda for character education” – summed up by the “ability to put the needs of others before your own”.

Such blatant calls for self-sacrifice cannot be sanctioned, and so I defer to Ayn Rand, who remains the world heavy-weight champion debunker of altruism.

There are two moral questions which altruism lumps together into one
“package-deal”: (1) What are values? (2) Who should be the beneficiary of
values? Altruism substitutes the second for the first; it evades the task of
defining a code of moral values, thus leaving man, in fact, without moral
guidance.

Altruism declares that any action taken for the benefit of
others is good, and any action taken for one’s own benefit is evil. Thus the
beneficiary of an action is the only criterion of moral value—and so long as
that beneficiary is anybody other than oneself, anything goes.

So the “test of character” posed to the British people is “how selfless can you be for the public good”? This is an indictment of moral vacuity, and as clear a sign as any that it is dangerous to underestimate quite how evil the next government will be – regardless of who wins, since even Reeves admits “both the main parties…promote social responsibility”.

‘Evil?’ I hear you ask.

‘What could be more evil?’ I retort.

You are being prescribed sacrifice of your livelihood and your moral code, and then told such an action is the height of morality. The two parties who are vying to form government are now clearly trying to outdo one another in the altruism stakes. Gone is any believable rhetoric about freedom, prosperity, or even the cliché of ‘change’, from British politics. This election will be fought between rival cabals of corporatist interest as to whom can construct the most effective socialist technocracy.

As for the grit crisis I wrote about in my last piece- well that has nothing to do with salt, but everything to do with character, according to Reeves – the implicit suggestion being of course, that any sector of the economy, be it rock salt distribution or the socialised health system, can be improved if only us individuals are willing to sacrifice ourselves.

I hope for my sake that you’re not.

Trust: earned, not learned

Cameron's probably undergoing an excruciating learning process - one where trust is earned, not learned.

Benedict Brogan posts a cogent analysis on why we must demand a referendum on the EU.

One would hope that politicians have learned that semantic games backfire.

Why can they not simply be straight with us?

The answer is obvious. They have too much to hide. They serve more than one master and when the inevitable conflict of interest arises, they have no choice but to fudge or lie.

They become emboldened with each lie/fudge that pays off, but eventually, the electorate cottons on and an almighty boil builds.

Sensible, integrity-steeped politicians will recognise the building boil and will seek to lance it. These wonderful souls (Dan Hannan) are, of course, ignored.

Until they resign and thence, lance the boil.

Then, the very subjects which the politicos wished to avoid discussing, become the very subjects which the electorate most want discussed.

Who wins?

Knowing that they have lost the argument on the big issues that concern the electorate, they try to buy us off with concessions on minor issues.  Avoid 'difficult' issues at all costs.

And so, debate is denied, lying becomes entrenched.

My mother warned that the danger of a lie is that one had to be able to recall ones previous lies to be credible. The real danger of lying is that the web of lies that invariably ensues, entraps us and forces us to face that which we sought to avoid - magnified. 

Integrity is in vogue, but our politicos appear to be the only people in the nation who don't know it.

Apart from UKIP, that is.

Cross-posted

La la la la la, we're not listening

Are you a conservative? Are you a libertarian? Do you believe in small government? Are you a eurosceptic? Do you intend to vote Conservative at the next general election?

If you answered yes to all of the above then I have one more question - why?

The Conservative Party isn't a party for conservatives any more, it's a New Labour clone - Blue Labour. The Conservative Party isn't a party with libertarian ideals any more, it's a party of authoritarians. The Conservative Party isn't a party of small government any more, it want's more and more control over our lives. And the Conservative Party certainly isn't a eurosceptic party any more, David Camoron is a eurofederalist committed to keeping the UK i the European Empire and to ever closer union.

UKIP is what the Conservative Party would be if it was run by conservatives - a right of centre, eurosceptic party committed to small government, low tax, libertarian ideals and national sovereignty.

If you believe in those ideals then a vote for the Conservatives is a wasted vote - a Tory government won't give you any of that. If you're thinking of voting Tory just to get rid of Liebour then that's a wasted vote - you're exchanging one party that doesn't represent you for another party that doesn't represent you.

By rights, David Camoron's dithering and pathetic "we won't let matters rest" policy on the Lisbon Treaty should be tearing the Conservatives apart from the inside. Most members of the Conservative Party are vehemently opposed to handing over the tattered remains of our national sovereignty to the European Empire but they are more interested in getting their party into power in the vain hope that once they're in power they will be able to change Camoron's direction. They're kidding themselves.

Camoron will see a victory at the ballot box as an endorsement of his agenda and the willingness of Tory members to support him throughout the election campaign as an acceptance of the new direction he is taking the party in.

Tories are overjoyed at today's news that Angela Merkel's party has won enough of the vote in the German general election to dump its alliance with the socialists. Forget about the fact that she's a fascist eurofederalist former communist - her party is right wing so it's something to be celebrated. Ignore the fact that she's been instrumental in promoting the EU not-a-constitution and leads the drive for a European Federation regardless of what the people of Europe want - she leads a nominally conservative party so it's a good thing.

Conservative Party members and voters need to look at the bigger picture. A Tory government is going to bring us more of the same - more tax, bigger government, less freedom and a Federal Europe. Instead of voting for the Tories despite the fundamental divergence from what the membership believes in, vote for UKIP because it represents every right thinking man and woman in this country.

Don't be afraid that voting UKIP will weaken the Tory vote and lead to an apocolyptic fourth term for Liebour - get out there and convince the rest of the disaffected Tory membership to vote UKIP as well. There is only one way to stop the forces of eurofederalism and that's to vote UKIP. Put your cross next to any other party and you're not only wasting your vote, you're condemning your country to a certain future as a collection of regions in a European Federation.

Is that what you want? Because it's certainly not what I want. Now pull your socks up, take your fingers out of your ears and give Camoron, Clarke and all the other eurofederalists two fingers.

UKIP: Stuart Wheeler's speech at the UKIP Spring Rally

Here is the text of Stuart Wheeler's (the spread betting millionaire thrown out of the Conservative Party for donating to UKIP) speech to the UKIP Spring Rally. Today in the Great Hall at Exeter University. Photos are available from PA. Mr. Wheeler was given a standing ovation as he came on to speak and again as he finished.

I suspect there are many here today just like me – Conservative at heart but feeling let down over Europe. I know I am not alone in this awkward position; when I decided to donate money to UKIP, many people got in touch and expressed their support for my actions – and almost all of them were die hard Tories.

And what was the straw that broke the camel's back – that turned us from our natural party? Two words: Ken and Clarke. But it is two words of another Tory politician that I want to examine this morning: William and Hague.

Last Saturday, the Daily Telegraph carried an interview with William Hague.Nothing, nothing could have illustrated better why I shall vote UKIP in the Euro-elections. There was in his interview no commitment to anything.

Let's look at it. If there is a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty will Ken Clarke vote against it? William Hague says that he expects, expects, mark you, that he will. What kind of language is that? Why doesn't William Hague know how Clarke will vote? Did he and David Cameron not ask him that simple question before they appointed him to the shadow cabinet?


Ken Clarke himself was quite specific on the subject as a backbencher “Calls for a referendum were absurd”. Take another point. The Conservatives should make it absolutely clear that, if elected, they will immediately call a referendum on Lisbon. But what do we find?

William Hague indicates that the Conservatives are likely to attempt to scrap the Treaty – possibly by calling a retrospective referendum. Heavens above! The Pope has indicated that he is likely to possibly be a Catholic!

The Tories want to sound tough without making the slightest commitment. The leadership is terrified that a tough stance will split the party. But who will be on the Europhile side of the split?

Just two big beasts, Clarke and Heseltine, and one or two smaller beasts. The party has shown quite rightly that it is not afraid of big donors, by expelling me. It should not be afraid of big beasts either.

By the way it is only the leadership that is so timid. A back bencher Tory MP came up to me and begged me to go on doing what I was doing. “80% of our MPs are behind you”, he said.

The polls are perfectly clear about the voters as well. They were recently asked by the pollsters, YouGov, which of ten things they would most like to see done. Top – reduce immigration: second – reduce the powers of the EU and increase the powers of Britain's Parliament. Way down below – reduce taxes, deal with climate change, scrap id cards etc...

Just listen to the voters, David and William, they do care about Europe, a lot. People have asked me, since my donation, why I did not stay within the Conservative party and use, as they put it, my influence. At one time I did have some sort of influence. I might almost say I was subject to a charm offensive Would I like to have lunch with shadow minister X?

Would I pop in for a discussion with shadow minister Y? Would I like to see William Hague to discuss Europe? The reason of course was to make me unlikely to say something awkward for the Conservatives or, god forbid, to support UKIP. I cannot resist one final point about William Hague's interview. He asks for a protest vote in the Euro elections. Well, which party would a protest vote be for?

Obviously not the party easily leading in the polls, the Tories – that could not be a protest vote. It can only mean voting UKIP! I look forward to him joining me in expulsion from the Party!

Thank You !

Cameron: A sheep in UKIP’s clothing ?

Earlier this week ''Call me Dave'' Cameron who likes to promise everything and anything to everyone outlined some of his new policies on English MP's dealing with English issues, Elected Mayors, local referendums on local issues including Council tax. Being busy I didnt notice his announcement untill a few days after he made it, to late to blog on grrr I thought !

The reason I was going to blog about these new policies was because he seemed to have taken them from UKIP's manifesto from the 2005 General Election (See section 9 Local Governance for more details) and from UKIPs 2008 local Elections manifesto which can be found here cheeky chap isnt he ? I was going to leave it without blogging on the matter but today I read the Conservatives have launched the Save the Great British Pub campaign. Wait on a sec didnt UKIP launch this campaign a few weeks back ? along with their new pub policy.

Unlike the Conservatives Pub Campaign, UKIPs is alot more than just a internet campaign over the next few months UKIP will be delivering over 150,000 Save the Pub beer mats . Putting up thousands of posters and printing thousands of paper petitons . All the above will run alongside special Save the Pub Public meetings.We are actually serious about it unlike Dave who just wants to score some brownie points.

But who can blame Cameron for stealing UKIP's policies when recently the Goverment looked into borrowing UKIPs Tax policy. Now it looks as if the Greens have cottoned onto our energy policy and come over all nuclear. It is obvious UKIPs policies are popular but when will one of the big two adopt UKIPs most popular policy which over 80% of the electorate agree with ''Taking Britain out of the EU'' ?

Sign UKIPs petition to Save our Pubs here also join the unofficial Facebook campaign Group

Bloom Harrygate.

Following the revalations in the press that Prince Harry had described a fellow cadet as a 'Paki', Godfrey takes issue with Dave cameron and others for jumping on the Prince Harry bandwagon. Maybe a stint in the army would do them good, rather than running it down.

Hidden Agenda?

The latest 'utterings' from The Boy (I won't discuss the European Union) Dave is probably the biggest shock of the year (so far) in that he has actually said something on the subject! Regrettably however, if you dissect what was said, it shows a form of contempt for the electorate.

Firstly, in the Financial Times, he has vowed to 'wreck the Lisbon Treaty', were there to be a general election in the Spring of this year. The FT continues: "Mr Cameron told the Financial Times that in such circumstances "we could have a referendum in October" on the treaty, in which he would lead the campaign for a No vote". The FT hits the nail on the head by stating that "The 'moderately eurosceptic' Tory leader expects to win that vote". Initial question Mr. Cameron - who gave you the right to 'lead the campaign for a No vote'?

In another article, this time in the Daily Mail, David Cameron states he would be prepared to cut the number of MPs by 60 as he feels the work done by the House of Commons could be done with fewer MPs and also to ensure that constituencies were of similar size in the number of electors.

A few points arise from both statements, which show that not only the Labour Party are prone to using 'spin' to achieve a favourable rating with the public. If one can believe Gordon Brown - difficult I know, given his history - he has stated that an election in the Spring is the 'farthest thought in my mind', consequently whilst David Cameron has stated what he would do, he knows it is fairly certain that is one promise on which he won't have to deliver. So why say it? Could it possibly be just to raise expectations in the mind of the public and in the hope it may help his party's vote at the coming European elections in June this year? (Sorry, me being cynical again!).

His second 'pronouncement', that he would cut the number of MPs also has a thread of 'not the whole reason why' behind it. Yes, it is a fact that with over 75% of our laws now emanating from Brussels the role of our Parliament is no more than that of an 'administrative centre' for our real government. Based on that Mr Cameron, why not cut 75% of them - in fact why not go even better and cut the lot as we are, more than likely, going to be governed by Regional Quangos anyway - who needs a middle man?

The other question that arises is how will these larger constituencies be formed. With the present government creating MAAs which conform to the Level 2 areas of the European Union's NUTS map of this country, what is the betting that any new constituencies will probably follow this principle.

Until David Cameron and his like from all the main three political parties accept one basic principle, which they will not do as it interferes with their continuing love of the EU project, they are being disrespectful and show nothing but contempt for the electorate of this country.

That basic principle is that we have the right to decide our own laws, our own way of life and therefore our own future and that of our children. We live in a democracy, supposedly, and if that basic right is taken away from us it leaves us in a new form of government - dictatorship with a democratic facade.

HT: Witterings from Witney

For anyone whos interested Dave's policy on Europe can be found here

UKIP - your anti-EU voice and choice.